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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by frankienose</title>
		<link>http://www.coffeecorner.org/2010/07/13/starting-a-food-library-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-77252</link>
		<dc:creator>frankienose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any of the &#039;noun&#039; cookbooks by James Peterson; &#039;Fish &amp; Shellfish&#039;, &#039;Soups&#039;, &#039;Sauces&#039;, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any of the &#8216;noun&#8217; cookbooks by James Peterson; &#8216;Fish &#038; Shellfish&#8217;, &#8216;Soups&#8217;, &#8216;Sauces&#8217;, etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading Ratio gave me MORE confidence.   The thought of baking without a recipe was filed under &quot;Potential Disasters&quot; in my mind until I read the breakdown of the basic ratios, why different ingredients did what they did, and how learning the basics empowered me to make something that was good without any tweaks, but that I could tweak once I was comfortable with them.

I get a lot more angst out of trying a new recipe these days than a ratio I&#039;ve not tried or experimenting with one I have tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading Ratio gave me MORE confidence.   The thought of baking without a recipe was filed under &#8220;Potential Disasters&#8221; in my mind until I read the breakdown of the basic ratios, why different ingredients did what they did, and how learning the basics empowered me to make something that was good without any tweaks, but that I could tweak once I was comfortable with them.</p>
<p>I get a lot more angst out of trying a new recipe these days than a ratio I&#8217;ve not tried or experimenting with one I have tried.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by laanba</title>
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		<dc:creator>laanba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.... that should say for *cooks to see where I&#039;m coming from.  Not non-cooks.  Eh you guys are smart and will figure out what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;. that should say for *cooks to see where I&#8217;m coming from.  Not non-cooks.  Eh you guys are smart and will figure out what I meant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by laanba</title>
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		<dc:creator>laanba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much Mike!  I confess I am the hapless cook that asked for source material.  I am NOT a cook by any means, and about a year ago you would have found me saying I hate to cook, but grew tired of my love/hate relationship with the kitchen and have made a concerted effort to change.

Mike is right that this does not come naturally to me and right now I just need a firm hand that says get this, get that because cooking is still a chore in many ways.  I know it is hard for non-cooks to see where I am coming from.  I have had many cooks tell me what a relaxing happy place the kitchen is, but for me it is not.  I am proud of the progress I have made but it is still a battle every day.  Hopefully eventually it will just be a skirmish.

I would gladly take food blog recommendations.  I am not a foodie by any means so a lot of food blogs have complicated or exotic ingredients or complicated prep (again try to look at it from a non-cook perspective).  I like simple down home food but god love the Pioneer Woman she cooks with lots and lots of cream, butter and cheese.  I like those things too but when I&#039;m trying to eat healthier it can&#039;t be an every day resource. 

I have come to accept (sadly) that there isn&#039;t a magic cookbook or blog out there for me and I&#039;m just going to have to sift through a lot of stuff to find what works for me.  

Anyway, enough backstory.  Thank you Mike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Mike!  I confess I am the hapless cook that asked for source material.  I am NOT a cook by any means, and about a year ago you would have found me saying I hate to cook, but grew tired of my love/hate relationship with the kitchen and have made a concerted effort to change.</p>
<p>Mike is right that this does not come naturally to me and right now I just need a firm hand that says get this, get that because cooking is still a chore in many ways.  I know it is hard for non-cooks to see where I am coming from.  I have had many cooks tell me what a relaxing happy place the kitchen is, but for me it is not.  I am proud of the progress I have made but it is still a battle every day.  Hopefully eventually it will just be a skirmish.</p>
<p>I would gladly take food blog recommendations.  I am not a foodie by any means so a lot of food blogs have complicated or exotic ingredients or complicated prep (again try to look at it from a non-cook perspective).  I like simple down home food but god love the Pioneer Woman she cooks with lots and lots of cream, butter and cheese.  I like those things too but when I&#8217;m trying to eat healthier it can&#8217;t be an every day resource. </p>
<p>I have come to accept (sadly) that there isn&#8217;t a magic cookbook or blog out there for me and I&#8217;m just going to have to sift through a lot of stuff to find what works for me.  </p>
<p>Anyway, enough backstory.  Thank you Mike!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by Geoff Coupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Coupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike - yep, I did blog about the trifle a few years back. I&#039;ve now made it a few times for different groups of friends, and it is always a surefire hit. The difficulty is getting hold of the crystallised violets in the Netherlands - I have to ask for food parcels from friends in the UK!

Ah, exemplary for Dutch food... Er, unkind folks would say that Dutch cuisine is an oxymoron. Traditional Dutch is heavy peasant food. The soups are good, particularly in Winter, e.g. snert (Google it), but all else is best approached with caution. Modern Dutch I think shows the influence of Indonesian cooking, but I leave that to Martin to do, which he just does without a recipe book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike &#8211; yep, I did blog about the trifle a few years back. I&#8217;ve now made it a few times for different groups of friends, and it is always a surefire hit. The difficulty is getting hold of the crystallised violets in the Netherlands &#8211; I have to ask for food parcels from friends in the UK!</p>
<p>Ah, exemplary for Dutch food&#8230; Er, unkind folks would say that Dutch cuisine is an oxymoron. Traditional Dutch is heavy peasant food. The soups are good, particularly in Winter, e.g. snert (Google it), but all else is best approached with caution. Modern Dutch I think shows the influence of Indonesian cooking, but I leave that to Martin to do, which he just does without a recipe book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@melissa - I considered Ratio as well - it&#039;s a fantastic book - but didn&#039;t mention it because while it certainly frees you from recipes, I wonder how it would go over if one didn&#039;t have some confidence in the kitchen in the first place. I completely agree with the part about the food blogs - there&#039;s a lot of great material available for free across the web every day.

@Geoff - I seem to recall a blog post or two where you prepared the trifle for a party (or I&#039;m making that up). Thanks for sharing! I&#039;m curious - what would you call out as exemplary for Dutch food or food writing?

@Mom - Funny, I have our old copy of that on the bookshelf at home. I&#039;ll have to pull it down and give it another read, now that I actually cook. (I haven&#039;t read from it in years.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@melissa &#8211; I considered Ratio as well &#8211; it&#8217;s a fantastic book &#8211; but didn&#8217;t mention it because while it certainly frees you from recipes, I wonder how it would go over if one didn&#8217;t have some confidence in the kitchen in the first place. I completely agree with the part about the food blogs &#8211; there&#8217;s a lot of great material available for free across the web every day.</p>
<p>@Geoff &#8211; I seem to recall a blog post or two where you prepared the trifle for a party (or I&#8217;m making that up). Thanks for sharing! I&#8217;m curious &#8211; what would you call out as exemplary for Dutch food or food writing?</p>
<p>@Mom &#8211; Funny, I have our old copy of that on the bookshelf at home. I&#8217;ll have to pull it down and give it another read, now that I actually cook. (I haven&#8217;t read from it in years.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by Gretchen Tremoulet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen Tremoulet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised Ratio wasn&#039;t on the top of your pile of books, as well as the list.

&quot;Alice&#039;s Restaurant Cookbook&quot; by Alice May Brock is aimed as much as setting the cook free as it is teaching the cook to cook.  I know you are thinking, &quot;it was published soooo long ago.&quot;  But you can still get it as a used book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised Ratio wasn&#8217;t on the top of your pile of books, as well as the list.</p>
<p>&#8220;Alice&#8217;s Restaurant Cookbook&#8221; by Alice May Brock is aimed as much as setting the cook free as it is teaching the cook to cook.  I know you are thinking, &#8220;it was published soooo long ago.&#8221;  But you can still get it as a used book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on But don&#8217;t take my word for it. by Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m like laanba on this - I prefer a tome over a technique book any day. Of course, with your VAST collection of books within 100 feet of me at most times, I don&#039;t really have to worry about that. Unless you hide my cookbooks from me because they are unworthy. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m like laanba on this &#8211; I prefer a tome over a technique book any day. Of course, with your VAST collection of books within 100 feet of me at most times, I don&#8217;t really have to worry about that. Unless you hide my cookbooks from me because they are unworthy. <img src='http://www.coffeecorner.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by Geoff Coupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Coupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel Slater is very good. I can recommend his &quot;Kitchen Diaries&quot;. The greatest hit I&#039;ve done from his recipes has to be his Edwardian trifle. There&#039;s a simpler version of the recipe in Kitchen Diaries, but the full Monty is here:
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/may/02/foodanddrink.shopping1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel Slater is very good. I can recommend his &#8220;Kitchen Diaries&#8221;. The greatest hit I&#8217;ve done from his recipes has to be his Edwardian trifle. There&#8217;s a simpler version of the recipe in Kitchen Diaries, but the full Monty is here:<br />
 <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/may/02/foodanddrink.shopping1" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2004/may/02/foodanddrink.shopping1</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Starting a Food Library, Part II by melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good list.  :)

I would add to this:  Ratio by Michael Ruhlman.   Ratio, Ratio, Ratio.    I make all of my pie crusts and cakes and cookies from scratch (still experimenting) and it doesn&#039;t ever occur to me to do otherwise these days.  It takes the fear out of baking.  Screw recipes!

I&#039;d also recommend that your friend start following some food blogs.  I like ones that have regular recipes but I also like the ones that are more along the lines of &quot;I got this ingredient and was wondering, what should I do with it, so I threw some stuff together and it was good.&quot;  Those have really helped me get out of the mindset of following recipes and more into the mindset of, &quot;here are foods that might taste good together, let&#039;s do stuff with those.&quot;  It&#039;s helped me get a lot more creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good list.  <img src='http://www.coffeecorner.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I would add to this:  Ratio by Michael Ruhlman.   Ratio, Ratio, Ratio.    I make all of my pie crusts and cakes and cookies from scratch (still experimenting) and it doesn&#8217;t ever occur to me to do otherwise these days.  It takes the fear out of baking.  Screw recipes!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also recommend that your friend start following some food blogs.  I like ones that have regular recipes but I also like the ones that are more along the lines of &#8220;I got this ingredient and was wondering, what should I do with it, so I threw some stuff together and it was good.&#8221;  Those have really helped me get out of the mindset of following recipes and more into the mindset of, &#8220;here are foods that might taste good together, let&#8217;s do stuff with those.&#8221;  It&#8217;s helped me get a lot more creative.</p>
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